1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:09,140 [Applause] 3 00:00:13,530 --> 00:00:11,250 good morning everyone 4 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:13,540 I'd like to thank the organizers for 5 00:00:17,870 --> 00:00:15,449 give me an opportunity to talk here and 6 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:17,880 on the formation of complex organic 7 00:00:23,849 --> 00:00:21,369 materials or molecules comes from PAHs 8 00:00:24,989 --> 00:00:23,859 or polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons it 9 00:00:26,700 --> 00:00:24,999 kind of goes along with the theme this 10 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:26,710 morning about what our bio signatures 11 00:00:31,550 --> 00:00:28,720 how do you make other molecules can you 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:31,560 make other molecules from the PAHs and 13 00:00:35,310 --> 00:00:34,090 what I'm going to talk about it give you 14 00:00:37,580 --> 00:00:35,320 a little background on the coms if 15 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:37,590 you're not familiar with the term 16 00:00:41,849 --> 00:00:40,079 chemist view comes differently than 17 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:41,859 astrobiologists and astronomers just to 18 00:00:47,220 --> 00:00:44,170 point out but for in the astrobiology 19 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:47,230 context comes our organic molecules 20 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:48,510 containing carbon hydrogen oxygen 21 00:00:56,340 --> 00:00:52,800 possibly nitrogen such as the aldehydes 22 00:00:57,689 --> 00:00:56,350 ketones going-ons and stuff which are 23 00:01:02,189 --> 00:00:57,699 carbon change with functional groups 24 00:01:04,110 --> 00:01:02,199 attached to them which can be useful in 25 00:01:09,210 --> 00:01:04,120 Bovada chemistry and the origins of life 26 00:01:10,710 --> 00:01:09,220 context pah is or polycyclic aromatic 27 00:01:11,999 --> 00:01:10,720 hydrocarbons if you're not familiar with 28 00:01:14,399 --> 00:01:12,009 them I think they've showed a couple of 29 00:01:17,490 --> 00:01:14,409 times this morning our carbon hydrogen 30 00:01:18,899 --> 00:01:17,500 molecules with cyclic aromatic rings of 31 00:01:22,649 --> 00:01:18,909 carbon in there they're important 32 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:22,659 because they're one of the most abundant 33 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:25,119 sources of carbon in the universe we 34 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:27,640 find them all over the place pretty much 35 00:01:32,910 --> 00:01:30,430 and in the is him the interstellar 36 00:01:36,030 --> 00:01:32,920 medium the PAH is tend to be 50 to 100 37 00:01:37,289 --> 00:01:36,040 carbon atoms in size we also find pH is 38 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:37,299 within the solar system but there's 39 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:38,770 typically a lot smaller we find them in 40 00:01:43,679 --> 00:01:40,810 meteorites interplanetary dust particles 41 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:43,689 cometary particles and such and they're 42 00:01:48,959 --> 00:01:46,350 usually about 24 atoms are smaller 43 00:01:50,609 --> 00:01:48,969 aromatic molecules also make up such as 44 00:01:53,249 --> 00:01:50,619 pH as components of the insoluble 45 00:01:56,670 --> 00:01:53,259 organic material which which we find in 46 00:01:58,260 --> 00:01:56,680 meteorites the aromatic structures are 47 00:01:59,969 --> 00:01:58,270 also important to the biochemistry a lot 48 00:02:01,880 --> 00:01:59,979 of our biochemistry are cyclic carbon 49 00:02:04,260 --> 00:02:01,890 structures or even aromatic structures 50 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:04,270 so what's interesting about the pH is 51 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:05,770 what happens when they undergo energetic 52 00:02:11,550 --> 00:02:07,570 processing we know they're in the is cm 53 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:11,560 they're large molecules and so when the 54 00:02:16,350 --> 00:02:13,510 protozoa nebula forms or even in within 55 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:16,360 areas within our own solar system you 56 00:02:20,699 --> 00:02:18,640 have high energetic particles going on 57 00:02:24,089 --> 00:02:20,709 so what happens to the chemistry of PAHs 58 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:24,099 such as UV fatalis high-energy protons 59 00:02:30,089 --> 00:02:26,890 and electrons that's where the basis of 60 00:02:32,309 --> 00:02:30,099 this kind of started and it kind of goes 61 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:32,319 to a bottom-up or top-down we heard that 62 00:02:36,179 --> 00:02:34,329 term earlier this morning but in this 63 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:36,189 term it's like a bottom-up synthesis our 64 00:02:39,119 --> 00:02:37,810 top-down synthesis are the organics in 65 00:02:41,429 --> 00:02:39,129 the solar system formed from smaller 66 00:02:42,780 --> 00:02:41,439 molecules combining together or larger 67 00:02:45,089 --> 00:02:42,790 molecules from the I am getting 68 00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:45,099 processed down to smaller molecules so 69 00:02:51,530 --> 00:02:48,969 we wanted to investigate that and so we 70 00:02:53,490 --> 00:02:51,540 did some experiments called IC or 71 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:53,500 investigation of carbon and evolution 72 00:02:58,830 --> 00:02:55,750 experiments and what we did was we took 73 00:03:01,890 --> 00:02:58,840 - PAH is Corning which is a 24 carbon 74 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:01,900 atom very compact PAH structure ice oval 75 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:03,519 and three I'm going to call it IV a just 76 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:06,760 for short which is a 34 carbon atom PAH 77 00:03:12,569 --> 00:03:09,310 and what we did we did positive as thin 78 00:03:16,110 --> 00:03:12,579 films on a salt on salt windows and then 79 00:03:20,179 --> 00:03:16,120 we took them to the and expose them to 80 00:03:22,589 --> 00:03:20,189 UV provie photons protons and electrons 81 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:22,599 and then what we were doing that we did 82 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:24,879 pre and post infrared spectroscopy 83 00:03:30,869 --> 00:03:28,510 measurements and we the chamber itself 84 00:03:33,030 --> 00:03:30,879 had a RG a onna a residual gas analyzer 85 00:03:35,399 --> 00:03:33,040 to see what species were given off 86 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:35,409 during a radiation and after a radiation 87 00:03:41,099 --> 00:03:39,430 we did the samples both single radiation 88 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:41,109 sources and in combination to see if a 89 00:03:45,390 --> 00:03:42,790 combination radiation had an effect 90 00:03:49,309 --> 00:03:45,400 versus individual radiation sources and 91 00:03:51,869 --> 00:03:49,319 then we also did the samples with a 92 00:03:54,140 --> 00:03:51,879 layer of ice on them to see if that 93 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:54,150 impact how that impacted the chemistry 94 00:03:57,899 --> 00:03:56,530 we did the experiments at the combined 95 00:03:59,099 --> 00:03:57,909 environmental effects facility at the 96 00:04:02,309 --> 00:03:59,109 Marshall Space Flight Center in 97 00:04:03,780 --> 00:04:02,319 Huntsville Alabama it's not necessarily 98 00:04:05,099 --> 00:04:03,790 set up for these type of experiments 99 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:05,109 that we're doing a proof-of-concept with 100 00:04:09,780 --> 00:04:06,970 it it's actually set up to expose 101 00:04:11,009 --> 00:04:09,790 satellites to solar wind so we're using 102 00:04:12,929 --> 00:04:11,019 the solar wind in this instance to do 103 00:04:14,699 --> 00:04:12,939 our chemistry you have a proton 104 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:14,709 accelerator going into this vacuum 105 00:04:19,740 --> 00:04:16,180 chamber as well as a high-energy 106 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:19,750 electron accelerator and the UV light 107 00:04:27,330 --> 00:04:23,289 source so we did here's the energies we 108 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:27,340 use we use about 700 ke V proton 90 ke V 109 00:04:33,580 --> 00:04:31,450 electrons the UV only experiments were 110 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:33,590 done at NASA Ames in our laboratory 111 00:04:38,530 --> 00:04:35,090 with a hydrogen discharge lamp using 112 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:38,540 10.2 evie we try to match the fluence as 113 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:41,110 much as possible between the samples 114 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:43,250 here's some visual results of what 115 00:04:45,790 --> 00:04:44,570 happened to the samples this is the 116 00:04:49,870 --> 00:04:45,800 sample holder that we made for the 117 00:04:51,940 --> 00:04:49,880 chamber is a huge chamber but we did 118 00:04:53,620 --> 00:04:51,950 duplicate samples cornea top the ice 119 00:04:56,620 --> 00:04:53,630 oval answering our IV a at the bottom 120 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:56,630 you can actually see color changes going 121 00:04:59,830 --> 00:04:57,680 on with the quarantine it's a 122 00:05:02,140 --> 00:04:59,840 translucent material it actually changed 123 00:05:03,250 --> 00:05:02,150 colour upon bombardment the blue color 124 00:05:05,050 --> 00:05:03,260 that you're seeing here is actually 125 00:05:11,290 --> 00:05:05,060 color centers developed in the salt 126 00:05:12,940 --> 00:05:11,300 windows when we were irradiated a little 127 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:12,950 bit more on the visual results a lot of 128 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:14,960 pH is fluoresce when you put them under 129 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:15,650 UV light 130 00:05:23,050 --> 00:05:19,490 and here's our control sample with no no 131 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:23,060 irradiation going on and you can see it 132 00:05:26,830 --> 00:05:24,560 fluoresce is grayed out the other 133 00:05:28,780 --> 00:05:26,840 samples they had no wire layer water ice 134 00:05:30,129 --> 00:05:28,790 layer on them not so much they got 135 00:05:31,450 --> 00:05:30,139 pretty much this is telling us we're 136 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:31,460 destroying the aromatic structure we're 137 00:05:37,469 --> 00:05:33,650 just really changing it altering it and 138 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:41,380 shown here is the RGA results and you 139 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:43,810 have the mass going from 1 to 100 140 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:48,770 amu the y-axis is pressure and analog in 141 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:50,570 a logarithmic scale and there's certain 142 00:05:53,650 --> 00:05:51,950 there are several time points going on 143 00:05:54,969 --> 00:05:53,660 here that before cool down just to give 144 00:05:58,779 --> 00:05:54,979 you idea of what the background looked 145 00:06:00,100 --> 00:05:58,789 like in the chamber after cool down when 146 00:06:01,719 --> 00:06:00,110 we started the electron gun this ease 147 00:06:03,790 --> 00:06:01,729 our electron irradiation experiments 148 00:06:06,969 --> 00:06:03,800 overnight and when we started warming up 149 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:06,979 so let's go through them in a second 150 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:09,530 let's get back to give it one second to 151 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:11,930 go through the cycle and here is the 152 00:06:15,490 --> 00:06:13,310 background right here it has a little 153 00:06:16,990 --> 00:06:15,500 bit of background contamination after 154 00:06:18,610 --> 00:06:17,000 cool down it's a little bit less intense 155 00:06:21,010 --> 00:06:18,620 we start the electron gun we start 156 00:06:24,159 --> 00:06:21,020 seeing a little bit more even overnight 157 00:06:26,020 --> 00:06:24,169 and then when we get to warm up we get 158 00:06:28,090 --> 00:06:26,030 all this other electronic material 159 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:28,100 showing up and what that actually looks 160 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:31,370 like again here's a stack plot from ten 161 00:06:35,650 --> 00:06:34,010 to a hundred mass units we've got the 162 00:06:38,409 --> 00:06:35,660 protons the electrons and come in 163 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:38,419 combined set protons in the red here 164 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:41,090 electrons black blue and green for the 165 00:06:47,719 --> 00:06:43,930 combined again these are both large PAHs 166 00:06:49,939 --> 00:06:47,729 Corning itself is about 300 amu 167 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:49,949 I saw bill answering is another 120 amu 168 00:06:54,740 --> 00:06:52,770 above that and so the fat and we if you 169 00:06:56,570 --> 00:06:54,750 put a pH in a mass spectrometer you 170 00:06:58,129 --> 00:06:56,580 don't necessarily get these lower these 171 00:07:01,219 --> 00:06:58,139 small fragments that we're seeing here 172 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:01,229 and what you see here is one you see a 173 00:07:05,210 --> 00:07:02,970 distinct pattern difference between the 174 00:07:06,350 --> 00:07:05,220 protons and electrons if you look at the 175 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:06,360 patterns you're seeing you're seeing a 176 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:08,490 c1 a carbon one carbon two carbon three 177 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:10,440 carbon up to about seven carbon chains 178 00:07:15,980 --> 00:07:14,490 in length the protons seem to stop 179 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:15,990 around the three to four carbon chain 180 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:17,970 lengths you also see it seems like it's 181 00:07:23,060 --> 00:07:19,919 stripping off hydrogen's one at a time 182 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:23,070 before you get to some Peaks and the 183 00:07:27,129 --> 00:07:24,930 right now the pro the combination looked 184 00:07:29,089 --> 00:07:27,139 just like a combined proton and electron 185 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:29,099 spectrum we need to do some more work on 186 00:07:32,469 --> 00:07:30,150 that to see if there's actually a 187 00:07:35,390 --> 00:07:32,479 difference with the combined radiation 188 00:07:36,770 --> 00:07:35,400 pointing out a couple of Peaks the 69 189 00:07:38,659 --> 00:07:36,780 peak was unusual because we're children 190 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:38,669 I figure out what it's going on and then 191 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:41,220 we've got a twenty six peak here in the 192 00:07:45,379 --> 00:07:43,770 c2 area that we're going to look at when 193 00:07:46,670 --> 00:07:45,389 we put a water ice layer on it and you 194 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:46,680 can actually visually see the water ice 195 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:48,810 layer our fragmentation pattern didn't 196 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:50,849 really change that much the main Peaks 197 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:52,289 the main fragmentation Peaks didn't 198 00:07:59,719 --> 00:07:56,849 change but it did kind of get kind of 199 00:08:01,339 --> 00:07:59,729 stopped these individual hydrogens being 200 00:08:04,159 --> 00:08:01,349 stripped off the main fragments whooshes 201 00:08:05,659 --> 00:08:04,169 that we're still there just to show you 202 00:08:07,070 --> 00:08:05,669 one interesting thing between another 203 00:08:09,290 --> 00:08:07,080 interesting thing between the electron 204 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:09,300 and proton here is right before the 205 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:10,560 start of the electron gun when we 206 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:12,330 started electron gun we see a order of 207 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:14,970 magnitude increase in that 69 peak in 208 00:08:20,060 --> 00:08:16,740 that twenty six p26 peak is 209 00:08:21,260 --> 00:08:20,070 characteristic of acetylene and pH is 210 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:21,270 when they get really energetic like to 211 00:08:25,370 --> 00:08:23,370 give off a C to H group of settle angry 212 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:25,380 hydro group we don't see that so much 213 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:27,210 with the proton the only time we give 214 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:28,409 off these Peaks is when we start warming 215 00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,289 up the sample so after the irradiation 216 00:08:37,089 --> 00:08:33,599 so the electrons seem to be sputtering 217 00:08:42,019 --> 00:08:37,099 the stuff off as well as producing it 218 00:08:46,269 --> 00:08:42,029 and then the combination is again kind 219 00:08:50,420 --> 00:08:48,560 now this is a lot going on on this slide 220 00:08:54,260 --> 00:08:50,430 but I'll try to it's the it's the pre 221 00:08:56,449 --> 00:08:54,270 the pre and post infrared spectra and 222 00:08:58,490 --> 00:08:56,459 what you're seeing here are different 223 00:09:00,050 --> 00:08:58,500 spectra we took the infrared spectra of 224 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:00,060 the radiated sample and said 225 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:03,270 tract it off the pre radiated sample so 226 00:09:06,620 --> 00:09:04,410 the neutrally an altered sample 227 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:06,630 subtracted from the altered samples and 228 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:10,890 this is for quarantine the purple here 229 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:13,410 is a UV results the black is the 230 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:15,810 electron bombardment the red is the 231 00:09:20,170 --> 00:09:17,490 proton bombardment and the blue is a 232 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:20,180 combined a couple of things to point out 233 00:09:27,140 --> 00:09:23,850 you see a bump kind of pointing coming 234 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:27,150 out around eight to ten microns in the 235 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:30,570 UV you see a couple of bumps coming out 236 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:33,480 between five and a half and fifteen 237 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:36,690 microns and the electron and proton as 238 00:09:39,410 --> 00:09:38,250 well as combination we do see a couple 239 00:09:40,820 --> 00:09:39,420 of new bands that are very small 240 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:40,830 features and the combine that we don't 241 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:41,760 see on the other ones we got to 242 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:44,490 investigate and we're kind of comparing 243 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:46,890 this bottom color that you see here 244 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:48,000 actually matches up to different 245 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:50,160 hydrogenation states of a pH 246 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:52,110 theoretically that we've taken off of 247 00:09:56,540 --> 00:09:55,110 our paw database and so it looks like 248 00:09:58,220 --> 00:09:56,550 we're hydrogenating as well as doing 249 00:09:59,390 --> 00:09:58,230 some other things to it but the 250 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:59,400 interesting thing here and you'll have a 251 00:10:03,470 --> 00:10:00,720 talk on this in a little bit 252 00:10:06,830 --> 00:10:03,480 are these broad features that we're 253 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:06,840 seeing kind of correlate with the 254 00:10:09,530 --> 00:10:08,040 plateaus that you see in the 255 00:10:11,150 --> 00:10:09,540 unidentified infrared emission bands 256 00:10:13,460 --> 00:10:11,160 with the pop bands we see in the in the 257 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:13,470 infrared all over the place so is that 258 00:10:17,180 --> 00:10:14,790 an indication that they're processed 259 00:10:19,550 --> 00:10:17,190 pause I don't know we got to do a lot 260 00:10:21,460 --> 00:10:19,560 more work focusing in on the CH stretch 261 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:21,470 here's ISIL answering here's quarantine 262 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:23,970 what you can see is the CH stretch the 263 00:10:28,850 --> 00:10:26,130 aromatic group in the LF attic the 264 00:10:31,820 --> 00:10:28,860 aliphatics grow upon which again is the 265 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:31,830 indication of hydrogenation in the 266 00:10:36,890 --> 00:10:33,390 proton and electron and a combined 267 00:10:39,170 --> 00:10:36,900 versus the UV but the electrons were 268 00:10:41,180 --> 00:10:39,180 unique in that they created this 3.0 3 269 00:10:43,580 --> 00:10:41,190 micron feature we didn't see that in the 270 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:43,590 protons that's kind of a characteristic 271 00:10:50,390 --> 00:10:48,180 of a CH stretching group off of a C 272 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:50,400 triple bond C or maybe a settle Lane 273 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:52,290 these were taken at room temperature and 274 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:53,370 room pressure so it couldn't be a 275 00:10:57,830 --> 00:10:55,230 settling gas by itself so it has to be a 276 00:11:02,510 --> 00:10:57,840 functional group like that attached to 277 00:11:04,220 --> 00:11:02,520 the PAH so what we kind of figure is 278 00:11:06,410 --> 00:11:04,230 going on is that we're taking the P and 279 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:06,420 actually is taking the PAH hitting it 280 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:07,980 with protons electrons creating all 281 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:09,380 these interesting structures such as 282 00:11:14,780 --> 00:11:13,649 acetylene and other groups 283 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:14,790 if you start going digging through the 284 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:15,930 mass spectra you see a lot of 285 00:11:20,689 --> 00:11:19,050 complicated stuff going on so we're 286 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:20,699 processing the pah is creating all these 287 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:22,410 other organics from it from a top-down 288 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:26,910 approach versus a bottom-up approach but 289 00:11:31,220 --> 00:11:28,410 again these are preliminary we're going 290 00:11:32,749 --> 00:11:31,230 to do a lot more work and I'll end on 291 00:11:35,329 --> 00:11:32,759 that on the conclusions a little bit is 292 00:11:37,309 --> 00:11:35,339 that the radiation processing does 293 00:11:39,319 --> 00:11:37,319 fragment the pH is modifies the 294 00:11:41,449 --> 00:11:39,329 chemistry of the pH is giving you a 295 00:11:45,259 --> 00:11:41,459 whole complex mixture of smaller 296 00:11:47,239 --> 00:11:45,269 molecules there is a difference between 297 00:11:50,090 --> 00:11:47,249 the electron and proton and UV 298 00:11:51,769 --> 00:11:50,100 radiations we are going this is a 299 00:11:52,609 --> 00:11:51,779 mock-up of our new system that we're 300 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:52,619 going to come on it's called 301 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:55,110 I see that we're starting in July when 302 00:11:58,309 --> 00:11:56,399 do you be able to do in situ 303 00:12:01,850 --> 00:11:58,319 measurements why we're irradiating with 304 00:12:05,329 --> 00:12:01,860 raman spectroscopy IR spectroscopy and 305 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:05,339 of the RGA so hopefully and just I would 306 00:12:09,199 --> 00:12:07,170 like to thank the organizers again and 307 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:09,209 think our funding agencies so well with 308 00:12:16,119 --> 00:12:11,730 that I'll hopefully answer any questions 309 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:19,100 we have time for before like two or 310 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:50,740 that's an interesting question 311 00:12:55,819 --> 00:12:53,940 I'm not sure on the on the electron 312 00:12:59,269 --> 00:12:55,829 bombardment are our new setups going to 313 00:13:00,920 --> 00:12:59,279 have electron guns capable of doing this 314 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:00,930 this was a proof-of-concept so we only 315 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:04,170 do one point and so we'd like to go back 316 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:06,570 and do the measurements where we can 317 00:13:09,699 --> 00:13:08,610 actually change the energies and change 318 00:13:13,610 --> 00:13:09,709 the fluence --is and see which 319 00:13:15,259 --> 00:13:13,620 parameters are most important I've got a 320 00:13:16,699 --> 00:13:15,269 theory on the electron with which ones 321 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:16,709 which energy levels might be the biggest 322 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:20,490 one but I'm not sure you know we can go 323 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:36,410 that's I don't know I have to I have to 324 00:13:42,019 --> 00:13:40,110 go change that in there I'm yeah no no 325 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:42,029 and this is a kind of a new area for us 326 00:13:45,170 --> 00:13:43,920 as well and so I'm learning a lot about 327 00:13:47,090 --> 00:13:45,180 the different ways to look at the data 328 00:13:49,699 --> 00:13:47,100 I'll plot the data one way I go back and 329 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:49,709 say wait a minute you know that's a good 330 00:13:55,410 --> 00:13:50,880 idea I gotta go back and try this one 331 00:13:55,420 --> 00:14:11,389 another quick question hi 332 00:14:16,139 --> 00:14:13,500 that's a good question and I'm trying to 333 00:14:18,930 --> 00:14:16,149 figure out the mass spectra is a complex 334 00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:18,940 mixture right now I'm really curious but 335 00:14:22,259 --> 00:14:20,470 we're going to see when we do these 336 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:22,269 experiments we can do them in situ and 337 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:24,760 combine the infrared the Raman and the 338 00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:27,490 mass spec and especially doing it but 339 00:14:30,780 --> 00:14:29,260 with the pH by itself and the pH with 340 00:14:32,910 --> 00:14:30,790 water ice and pH with different things 341 00:14:34,259 --> 00:14:32,920 in there I'm really curious what kind of 342 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:34,269 chemistry you're going I wouldn't I 343 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:36,250 wouldn't be surprised if you start 344 00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:37,630 changing stuff around we know we know we 345 00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:41,140 and we do stuff with the UV and organic 346 00:14:46,110 --> 00:14:42,870 mixtures in a water ice and we make 347 00:14:47,790 --> 00:14:46,120 nuclear bases and stuff like that this 348 00:14:49,470 --> 00:14:47,800 is coming from the top down again so I 349 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:49,480 wouldn't be surprised but I don't know I 350 00:14:53,220 --> 00:14:51,040 have to do the experiments to find out I 351 00:14:58,230 --> 00:14:53,230 mean excited by getting this stuff up 352 00:15:01,910 --> 00:14:58,240 and running and doing it so yeah thank